Last year, the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA appointed a Special Committee to Study Issues of Civil Union and Christian Marriage. The committee was given two years to study how the theology and practice of marriage have developed in the Reformed tradition and the place of covenanted same-gender partnerships in the Christian community.


This adult education course tries to do something similar over an eight-week period for St. Andrew Presbyterian in Iowa City. Throughout this discussion, we hope to hear from class participants’ personal experiences and questions concerning sexuality and the Presbyterian faith.


For questions or comments, contact Jeff Charis-Carlson at

jcharisc@press-citizen.com.

Monday, September 14, 2009

Class notes from Week 1 (Sept. 13)

To give an example of the type of dialogue we’ve looking for in our eight-week course on “Human Sexuality and the Faith of Presbyterian Christians,” I read a short Minnesota Public Radio column by Dawn Mikkelson, a documentary-maker from the Twin Cities who made a film eight years ago about the story of a lesbian Lutheran pastor and the congregation who decided to call her despite a denominational ban. Mikkelson describes her own complicated emotions upon the ELCA’s recent decision to allow individual congregations to decide whether to call open-gay pastors or bless marriages for same-sex couples.

“Will it change the world?” Mikkelson asks. “Maybe not exponentially. But it will mean that untold numbers of adolescent kids who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender or questioning will see that there is a place for them in this world and with God. That the foundation of their life and world view has not rejected them. That the church, sometimes the biggest weapon used against them and their view of themselves, says, ‘We love you and accept you.’”


I then drew attention to one of the online comments posted to the MPR site:

"At the same time, we should remember that God showed us what love is when He offered His Son Jesus to die — to forgive our sin. Does this not mean that He loves us for who we are, but doesn't accept us as we are? He judges sin and forgives it. And, as with the woman caught in adultery, He says, ‘Go and sin no more.’ How can a church take seriously God's anger toward what the Bible calls sin while at the same time letting sinners know that they are sinners? The article and the comments seem to indicate that God's love is only real if He doesn't decide something about us is sinful and His Church doesn't call us to change."


Both comments — while disagreeing theologically and practically — fit within the “Guidelines for People of Faith during Times of Disagreement” that Pastor Bob David suggested we share with the class before the discussion began. The roughly 25 people attending the class seemed to take the examples to heart, because after being divided into small groups, they came up with their own list of questions they’d like discussed over the course the class.

We’ll do our best to accommodate.

Biblical interpretation:

  • What does the Bible say about homosexuality?
  • Is it a sin to be homosexual?
  • Is it a sin to perform homosexual acts?
  • If it isn’t a sin, then where is the line when it comes to sexual behavior?
  • If it is a sin, how is the sin of homosexuality different (worse) than the sins of slander, gossip, adultery, etc?
  • Where do hermaphrodites fit into a biblical worldview?
  • How do we show acceptance and love for people if when we think they are sinning but they don’t think they are?

Psychological and other scientific studies:

  • Do we choose our sexuality?
  • When is a person’s sexuality set?
  • If homosexuality is set at birth, should that make it acceptable from a biblical perspective? From a societal perspective?

Denominational questions:

  • What is the difference between the marriage ceremony and a “sacrament” in the Presbyterian tradition?
  • Our denomination allows pastors to bless same-sex unions, but it doesn’t allow the word marriage to be used. How does that complicate the situation in states like Iowa where marriages between same-sex couples are recognized?
  • St. Andrew’s church board (Session) recently told a same-sex couple — who were both long-term members of the church — that they couldn’t use the church’s sanctuary for their wedding. Yet First Presbyterian then grants the couple’s request. How do two PCUSA churches in the same city come to such different interpretations of the denomination’s rulings and restrictions?
  • How is the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America faring as a denomination after voting to allow individual congregations to decide whether allow for same-sex marriages or to call a minister who is in a committed, same-sex relationship?

Congregational questions:

  • Who is allowed to use the sanctuary? Do we screen or condone the faith or purpose of all the groups who use our space?
  • How do the decisions on same-sex marriage at St. Andrew affect our ministry in the broader community? How much should we care if it does?
  • The Session was asked to decide whether to make the sanctuary available for the wedding of a same-sex couple. A majority said no, and others said they need time to explore the topic more. So, why aren’t more current session members sitting in on this class?

Cultural questions:

  • Why do same-sex couples want to marry in the first place? What’s the benefit to them?

Guidelines for People of Faith During Times of Disagreement

Give them a hearing…listen before we answer

John 7:51 and Proverbs 18:13

In a spirit of trust and love, we promise we will…

1 Treat each other respectfully so as to build trust, believing that we all desire to be faithful to Jesus the Christ;

  • We will keep our conversations and communications open for candid and forthright exchange,
  • We will not ask questions or make statements in a way which will intimidate or judge others.

2 Learn about various positions on the topic of disagreement.

3 State what we think we heard and ask for clarification before responding; in an effort to be sure we understand each other.

Speak the truth in love

Ephesians 4:15

4 Share our concerns directly with individuals or groups with whom we have disagreements in a spirit of love and respect in keeping with Jesus’ teachings.

5 Focus on ideas and suggestions instead of questioning people’s motives, intelligence or integrity;

  • We will not engage in name-calling or labeling of others prior to, during, or following the discussion.

6 Share our personal experiences about the subject of disagreement so that others may more fully understand our concerns.

Maintain the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace

Ephesians 4:3

7 Indicate where we agree with those of other viewpoints as well as where we disagree

8 Seek to stay in community with each other though the discussion may be vigorous and full of tension;

  • We will be ready to forgive and be forgiven.

9 Follow these additional guidelines when we meet in decision-making bodies;

  • Urge persons of various points of view to speak and promise to listen to these positions seriously’
  • Seek conclusions informed by our points of agreement;
  • Be sensitive to the feelings and concerns of those who do not agree with the majority and respect their rights of conscience;
  • Abide by the decision of the majority, and if we disagree with it and wish to change it, work for that change in ways which are consistent with these Guidelines.

10 Include our disagreement in our prayers, not praying for the triumph of our viewpoint, but seeking God’s grace to listen attentively, to speak clearly, and to remain open to the vision God holds for us all.

Adopted by the 204th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

for use by sessions and congregations

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Course Description and Initial Syllabus

“Human Sexuality and the Faith of Presbyterian Christians”

St. Andrew Presbyterian Church — Sept. 13 through Nov. 1

Teachers: Jeff Charis-Carlson and Pastor Bob David


The national Presbyterian Church USA is in the middle of intense study and reflection concerning the denomination's stance on same-sex marriage and on the ordination of gay and lesbian Elders, Deacons and Ministers of the Word. The real life implications of these theological discussions hit close to home in April, when the Iowa Supreme Court ruled that county recorders should issue marriage licenses to otherwise qualifying same-sex couples.


When two St. Andrew members asked if they could hold their wedding ceremony in the sanctuary of what has been their spiritual home for the past 14 years, the Session was asked to make a determination affecting two church members who worship and pray beside us. During its June meeting, the request was turned down, citing the broader denominational question as one of the reasons. (The couple has since made a similar request of First Presbyterian, who is allowing them to use the sanctuary.)


The Session's decision has raised many difficult and painful questions about the degree to which St. Andrew's gay and lesbian members can participate in the life of the church. When it comes to its gay and lesbian members, how "open and affirming" is St. Andrew? How "open and affirming" should it be?


Last year, the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA appointed a Special Committee to Study Issues of Civil Union and Christian Marriage. The committee was given two years to study how the theology and practice of marriage have developed in the Reformed tradition and the place of covenanted same-gender partnerships in the Christian community.


This adult education course tries to do something similar over an eight-week period. Throughout this discussion, we hope to hear from class participants’ personal experiences and questions concerning sexuality and the Presbyterian faith. To let that happen, we will be promoting and upholding civil dialogue that acknowledges how we are all made in God's image and how the Holy Spirit dwells within each of us.


The class schedule includes:



Week 1: Sept. 13 (class notes)

Week 2: Sept. 20 (class notes will be added after class)

  • Readings: Biblical passages usually cited when discussing homosexuality: Creation (Genesis 1-2); Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19); Holiness Code (Leviticus 18 and 20); Sin of Onan (Genesis 38:1-10); Jesus on Divorce (Matthew 19:1-12); Against Nature (Romans 1-2); and Excluded from the Kingdom (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
  • In class: Watch first 30 minutes of the documentary, “For the Bible Tells Me So.”
  • Discussion questions (to be added)

Week 3: Sept. 27 (class notes will be added after class)

  • Readings:
  • The legal document complied by for the Session
  • Letter from Ann Reppun
  • In Class: Watch second 30 minutes of the documentary, “For the Bible Tells Me So.”
  • Discussion questions (to be added)

Week 4: Oct. 4

Week 5:

Week 6:

  • Readings
  • To be announced
  • In-class: Discuss additional questions from class members
  • Discussion questions (to be added)

Week 7:

Week 8:

  • Readings
  • To be announced
  • In-class:
  • Discussion questions (to be added)